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 Post subject: Porn channels on swiftirc?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:34 am 
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Okay, It's came to my knowledge that there is a channel supporting porn websites on swiftIRC, Should it be banned? or should it be allowed?

Hutchins has informed me that this is allowed

[20:25] <@Hutchins> Since they are neither flooding, advertising or actively distributing amongst the community I see no problem with it.

Should swiftIRC end up like quake.net and other servers flooded with Adult fling channels, Porn channels etc for minors to see?

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 Post subject: Re: Porn channels on swiftirc?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:41 am 
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If the channels are set +s i don't see a problem

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 Post subject: Re: Porn channels on swiftirc?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:42 am 
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Do you ask google if they should allow or disallow their users to find porn? No.

I personally do not think we are providing anything that people cannot easily find themselves.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:44 am 
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[20:27:33] <04@Hutchins> I'm sure there is a number of channels like this across the network as another IRCop informed me of our general protocol, while this may not be your envisionment for SwiftIRC we've taken a number of precautions to ensure minors don't view the content and if they do it is at their own free will.

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 Post subject: Re: Porn channels on swiftirc?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:44 am 
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El3M3NT wrote:
What the ****, are you serious. What's stopping people from googling **** anyways. It's not like there are any links in the topic. Nobody even gives real porn in this channel. If they were going to do something about it they'd spamfilter the links. **** off you wannabe *****. You've been here what, 30 days? **** off. Go somewhere else.


There are links in the topic.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:47 am 
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Steve| wrote:
Do you ask google if they should allow or disallow their users to find porn? No.

I personally do not think we are providing anything that people cannot easily find themselves.


Yes, But this is not google. If they want to find it elsewhere they can but swiftIRC shouldn't be supporting in them finding it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:47 am 
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Are you sure you ain't thinkin 'bout Undernet?

Qnet doesn't have that much ****, only a few bots spamming with "FREESEXLOL CLICKHERPLZ.cn"

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 Post subject: Re: Porn channels on swiftirc?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:52 am 
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El3M3NT wrote:
STILL, HONESTLY WHO GIVES A FLYING ****, WHAT ARE YOU LIKE **** 9 YEARS OLD. BY THE 8TH GRADE PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ENROLLED IN A SEXUAL EDUCATION CLASS, WELL IN AMERICA ATLEAST. THERE YOU SEE PENIS AND VAGINA. WOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW OMG A DICK OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY EYESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


You aren't forced to click these links, nor is anyone else. So fk off fgt.


Actually, Calling me 9 years old and typing like that isn't such a good idea. There are also laws such as 18+ or in some states 21+.


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 Post subject: Re: Porn channels on swiftirc?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:54 am 
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Steve| wrote:
Do you ask google if they should allow or disallow their users to find porn? No.

I personally do not think we are providing anything that people cannot easily find themselves.


Yes, But this is not google. If they want to find it elsewhere they can but swiftIRC shouldn't be supporting in them finding it.


We are not supporting it. We are just choosing not to force people into a certain way of thinking.

The users that are exposed to pornography view it under their own free will, they are not forced. We do often spamfilter links that are spammed and advertised.

We should not have to monitor each channel to check wether they are giving out porn links or not. These are private channels for private use.

I'll also add that we have numerous commands and modes to stop the distribution of such material, it is up to the channel owner or users wether or not they chose to enforce those.

People will find pornography anywhere they look. Anything we do won't stop this.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:57 am 
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We are not supporting it. We are just choosing not to force people into a certain way of thinking.

The users that are exposed to pornography view it under their own free will, they are not forced. We do often spamfilter links that are spammed and advertised.

We should not have to monitor each channel to check wether they are giving out porn links or not. These are private channels for private use.

I'll also add that we have numerous commands and modes to stop the distribution of such material, it is up to the channel owner or users wether or not they chose to enforce those.

People will find pornography anywhere they look. Anything we do won't stop this.


If the channel is allowed on the server and for minors to view the channel/links you are supporting it/allowing it. You say you spam-filter some channels advertised? but yet you allow a porn channel advertising many links to go ahead?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:00 am 
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I don't think it's illegal to see the LINK of a porn site. If they choose to click it, it's their fault. SwiftIRC's not the one breaking any laws.

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 Post subject: Re: Porn channels on swiftirc?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:22 am 
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El3M3NT wrote:
what are you trying to do, quite frankly no one gives a hoot, also i havent seen this channel spam-advertise its name anywhere nor have any links been spammed. also on swiftkit irc usermode +f is set by default causing links to be filtered. therefor NO links show to users. when they turn off -f swiftirc isn't liable for what links they see/click. the channels there to be there. the channel also has chmode: +s also making it so it doesn't show in a /list so the only way someone could find it is by randomly typing in the channel name or being invited.


Non the less it still shouldn't be on the server. There are certain servers for this stuff. SwiftIRC shouldn't be one due to the fact that 80% of our users are underage and shouldn't be viewing porn or given the option too.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:26 am 
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El3M3NT wrote:
Hi did you not read my post?


Yes i did, It was just a bunch of crap about hiding channels blah blah blah and how users 99% of the time ALWAYS turn of -f when using sk.


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 Post subject: Re: Porn channels on swiftirc?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:28 am 
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El3M3NT wrote:
Therefor the channel is hidden from users. Meaning it's hidden from channel lists. The only way they could find it is if....im not repeating myself. Read 1st page posts. You're a moron.


You're not one to judge, Reading your posts on the 1st page. I'm just pointing out my views that porn channels shouldn't be allowed on swiftIRC. If you don't like that please don't post. Go outside. be a kid.


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 Post subject: Re: Porn channels on swiftirc?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:32 am 
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El3M3NT wrote:
and im saying you're trying to fix something that no one cares about. so leave. they aren't breaking any rules in anyway.


No, But the minors viewing the sites they are advertising in the topic is breaking the law. I'm pretty sure that will break one of the swiftIRC rules. And if nobody cares why do you keep posting?


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